Save button missing on toolbar

[wittend]

Describe the problem

The Save and Upload buttons are missing on the 2.0.0 rc9 toolbar! This is a critical error, whether it is intentional or otherwise.
As a disabled individual, I am completely unacceptable! I am at the mercy of the mouse. Keyboard shortcuts will not suffice.

To reproduce

Just look at any schetchbook.

Expected behavior

The Save and Upload buttons should be in the toolbar.

Arduino IDE version

2.0.0 rc9 zip

Operating system

Linux

Operating system version

20.1

Additional context

No response

Issue checklist

• I searched for previous reports in the issue tracker
• I verified the problem still occurs when using the latest nightly build
• My report contains all necessary details

[per1234]

Hi @wittend. Thanks for your report.

First of all, the Upload button should still be there:

Are you seeing something different? If so, please provide a screenshot.

As for the New, Open, and Save buttons, these were intentionally removed with the intention of making the Arduino IDE more accessible to beginners by removing superfluous complexity from the user interface.

You can still use the mouse to perform all these actions. Just select File > Save. No need to use a keyboard shortcut. If that is for some reason not a suitable alternative for you, please provide more information so that we can fully understand the issue.

Regards, Per

[ednieuw]

I miss the New Open and Save button.

[conr2286]

I too miss the upload button. Perhaps, in the best of all possible future worlds, the toolbar might someday be configurable in a manner that does not confuse beginners (e.g. right-click tool bar???).

[per1234]

@conr2286 as I explained above, the Upload button is still on the toolbar, so there is no reason to miss it. If you really don't have an Upload button, please provide a screenshot.

[Lorandil]

Personally, I like to explicitly save my work (before shutting down or otherwise).
I think implicit saving adds complexity instead of reducing it.
I don't see a problem in implicit saves, though.

So I really would like to get the save button back (with a "save all" functionality).

[per1234]

Personally, I like to explicitly save my work (before shutting down or otherwise).
I think implicit saving adds complexity instead of reducing it.
I don't see a problem in implicit saves, though.

Each user is welcome to choose their preferred behavior via the "Auto Save" preference in File > Preferences.

So I really would like to get the save button back

It is not clear to me how this statement follows from your preference for explicitly saving your work.

Explicit saving is still possible via the File > Save menu item, or its keyboard shortcut (i.e., Ctrl+S). Is the removal of the "Save" button somehow preventing you from being able to do explicit saves?

[per1234]

Closing due to lack of response to my requests for more information about the claims that the "Upload" button is missing.

@wittend @conr2286 if the "Upload" button is missing for you, this is a serious bug and something that should be tracked and investigated. But none of the team working on the Arduino IDE 2.x has ever experienced this problem, so this is only possible with your cooperation. If you ghost the issue then it is a dead end.

if you will provide the requested information by commenting here, I'll be happy to re-open this issue.

[wittend]

The serious problem was the lack of the Save button. I misspoke (and said so) concerning the upload button. I did not ghost this conversation, you made it clear that you did not respect my input on this as an accessibility issue. What else is there to say? Dave Witten

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[ednieuw]

I will also miss the save button. With CTRL+S you never know for sure the file was really saved.
A why remove the buttons?